Marxism: Zizek/Peterson: Official Video

15 Mai 2019
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I posted this yesterday, but the volume was too low, so now it's been raised.
On February, April 19, 2019, I debated Marxist philosopher Slavoj Zizek in Toronto, April 19 at the Sony Centre. Dr. Zizek is a Slovenian philosopher and professor at the Institute for Sociology and Philosophy at the University of Ljubljana, whose works on cultural studies, psychoanalysis and, above all, for the purposes of our debate, Marxism, are world-renowned. The topic? Happiness: Marxism vs Capitalism. This is the official video. Many bootlegs have already been released, but that seems inevitable given our current state of technological capability.
I started with a critique of The Communist Manifesto, which is the central revolutionary document of the Marxist movement (rather than addressing, say, Zizek's work, which wasn't what the debate was about).
It wasn't so obvious for the rest of the discussion that Marxism, per se, comprised the central topic of discussion.
Watch for yourself.
A good article, I think, on Zizek:

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  • Benito Juarez said, ‘Peace is respect for the rights of others.’ La paz es el respeto al derecho ajeno.’

    Ann Bruce PinedaAnn Bruce PinedaVor 15 Minuten
  • Peterson: Others systems different that capitalism don't produce wealth just inequality * Communist China eradicates poverty *

    Cesar SanchezCesar SanchezVor 2 Stunden
  • Disappointing. Peterson showed up with his normal well trained arguments and data that are laid out in a comprehensive manner just to waste his time because the other guy is unintelligible, random, and didn't even argue that his side of the debate is right. Lol

    H3H3Vor 2 Stunden
  • The cofounders of BLM originally said they were Marxists.

    Ann Bruce PinedaAnn Bruce PinedaVor 3 Stunden
  • Wow! I can’t believe I’m experiencing this! Zizek is really smart; disorganized but brilliant.

    Ann Bruce PinedaAnn Bruce PinedaVor 3 Stunden
  • Platitude: ‘Happiness is like a butterfly, always beyond your grasp; but if you sit down quietly, it may alight on you and hold fast.’

    Ann Bruce PinedaAnn Bruce PinedaVor 3 Stunden
  • I think I might agree with Zizek about immigration but I’m not sure. I also agree with his comments about neoliberalism and oligarchies. I definitely agree with you both that oceans are putting us to shame. Dr. Peterson, I can’t imagine how I might question any of your amazing summary or your rebuttal.

    Ann Bruce PinedaAnn Bruce PinedaVor 3 Stunden
  • What’s with Zizek’s nose?

    Ann Bruce PinedaAnn Bruce PinedaVor 3 Stunden
  • You’re allowed to read your remarks in a debate? Even in a middle school or high school debate you are not allowed to read, are you? How do we know the Slovenian, Zizek, even wrote his remarks. He may not have written them any more than Joe Biden composed the remarks he makes as he reads the note cards summarizing the destructive orders he might approve but certainly neither planned nor redacted. Nor could he put the index card down and explain to anybody what he’s doing.

    Ann Bruce PinedaAnn Bruce PinedaVor 4 Stunden
  • Im a Jordan Peterson kind of guy but mmh Zizek was something...both were great

    Triva GraviaTriva GraviaVor 4 Stunden
  • Zizek is wonderful

    alice215alice215Vor 5 Stunden
  • If Rich Vos became a intellectual commie, it would sound something like...

    Jeff LoveJeff LoveVor 5 Stunden
  • 9:38 ..lets get readyyyyyyyyy to rummmmmbble!

    Jeff LoveJeff LoveVor 7 Stunden
  • I tried before but his accent is undearable and his attitude always in attack mode. I’ll try one more time but it’s hard. Wish he had a voice over. Sounds like there’s something wrong with his mouth.

    User 1307User 1307Vor 10 Stunden
  • I’m struggling to figure out where the disagreement is. They seem to be saying the same thing in a different framework.

    brian blakleybrian blakleyVor Tag
  • 2.4K anarchist voted this down.

    Andrew SearsAndrew SearsVor Tag
  • That intro be cringed...😬😬

    barbarosa cbarbarosa cVor Tag
  • Excellent food for thought

    Keely EvansKeely EvansVor Tag
  • Zizek is a sophist in the classic sense. An obscure argument with little reference to the actual topic and appeals to emotions.

    canIshouldIcanIshouldIVor Tag
  • How can he say that people don't come to power through the exploitation of others???

    Bingham BaringBingham BaringVor Tag
  • 51:56 I lost respect for Zizek at this point. How can he commit such a basic error of logic? He is blindly and ungraciously taking the part for the whole and the whole for the part by over-generalizing that religion leads people to do bad things. I am not a religious person. But I know that "bad" people ("bad" is just a term that reflects our ignorance of what mental disorders are all about) are "bad" not because of either the lack of, or adherence to, a religion. They are "bad" for a myriad of other many factors; religion, or the absence of it, is just the catalyst; reducing this problem to "them vs us" is not only over-simplistic, but reflects the incapacity of Zizek to handle a very basic cognitive operation of naïve categorization. He is utterly unable to understand the many continuums (*continua*) that stretch from "bad" people to "good" people. I could go on and on. But to sum up, Zizek is definitely over-rated. You want to understand these issues from the point of view of a much more competent person? Listen to Zapolsky. [maybe the problem is that he already has a prefabricated discourse that was not well delivered here, but it has probably been better delivered somewhere else] Yes, ideologies are dangerous, but anti-ideologism is itself a form of ideologism. Just saying. 53:40 To be fair, this is aslo a pretty good remark and deep insight by Zizek (most of us realized this at some point of our lives, but not all of us were/are able to verbalize the issue as well as Zizek does here): "Don't fall in love with your suffering. Never presume that your suffering is in itself a proof of your authenticity. Renunciation of pleasure can easily turn into pleasure of renunciation itself." 55:10 Once again, this is quite a great insight from Zizek. The (very complex) mental pattern of "narrative schemata" (look for Mark Turner's book "The Literary Mind") is an underestimated, underrated and overlooked social and individual issue that should be discussed much more often both at school and within intellectual circles. 1:00:04 Nice quotation from Hegel: "Evil resides in the gaze which sees Evil everywhere" I think the original quote is though "Evil resides in the very gaze which perceives Evil all around itself" I believe. But perhaps it is a sheer matter of translation (that, or probably Hegel wrote about this in different texts phrasing it in different ways at different times). My verdict: Both Peterson and Zizek have strong and weak points.

    Sergio Sánchez PadillaSergio Sánchez PadillaVor Tag
  • Marxism was a cult-like scam that power-hungry authoritarians used to demagogue to the "working class". Marxists got them to fight and die for their murderous revolutions. This created a power vacuum that they filled themselves. I will never be a Marxist or a leftist ever again.

    Dirtbag CentristDirtbag CentristVor Tag
  • Happiness... let’s invite a chronical depressed person?

    Gilles van ZeebroeckGilles van ZeebroeckVor Tag
  • Liberalism (I'm talking about Lockean liberalism, not the "liberalism" conservatives use to insult people to the left of them) is about colour blindness. So it's absurd to think idpol comes from liberalism. Idpol comes from Marxism, where identity groups are in constant "class struggle".

    Dirtbag CentristDirtbag CentristVor 2 Tage
  • Zikek pretends the PC, woke and idpol rubbish doesn't come from Marxism (it does, that's why Marxism is cancer), in order to sway conservatives to his side? What a disingenuous fraud. He also speaks gobbledygook like a typical commie.

    Dirtbag CentristDirtbag CentristVor 2 Tage
  • Zizek couldn't defend Marx's most famous and influential works - and whether he likes it or not - the whole concept of Marxism. He also spent a lot of time admitting there was much good about Capitalism. Basically he skirted around the edges and avoided the central point of this whole debate - because he knew he'd lose. Perhaps he has finally grown up but is in so deep he cannot admit that Marxism is dangerous and stupid - the conclusion most intelligent people eventually arrive at.

    Reckless RodentReckless RodentVor 2 Tage
  • How can you achieve happiness? Through affirmations such as "I am wealthy"? It helps me to do that. It puts my attention, my mental energy, on something positive. It puts me into a better mood and a more helpful outlook.

    Topher MingTopher MingVor 2 Tage
  • Zizek has this crazy, annoying habit of pulling on his shirt.

    Topher MingTopher MingVor 2 Tage
  • George Soros is a socially responsible Capitalist???

    Topher MingTopher MingVor 2 Tage
  • Zizek's pessimism is causing him to draw irrational conclusions. Peterson is a clinical psychologist, who has extensively studied behavioral and evolutionary psychology... it is very likely that he has a far more accurately fine tuned perception of the balance of malevolence/benevolence is throughout humanity... you'd think he would be more pessimistic due to encountering so many problem cases... and yet... apparently, he perceives that the evidence is in favor of optimism. Zizek in his pessimism, believes that humanity is too capable of malevolence... so we must create structures of power to use force in an attempt to prevent that malevolence from occurring, or rather, from getting out of control. But what he doesn't see... is that, in creating that source of power... you just created a magnet that invites the highly intelligent, highly driven evil members of society to infiltrate and take over that power structure... and wield it how they see fit. It is the nature of centralized power monopolies to devolve into fraud, corruption, and abuse... given enough time it always eventually bypasses any meaningful checks and balances to gain more power. In a society where the consumers vote with their dollars on all matters... then the golden rule thrives... because greedy people who are short sighted... and pursue their selfish ends to the detriment of others... their sucess cannot be sustainable. Their greed teachs them that cooperating in a civil society is the most sustainable profit path. And for those not competent enough to grasp that... will fail and fall by the wayside in due time. But by and large society understands how to naturally form mutually beneficial relationships and arrangements... finding a societal equilibrium.

    Chipwhitley274Chipwhitley274Vor 2 Tage
  • This all comes down to whether one believes the collective is primarily formed by the individual (Peterson) or the individual is formed by the collective (Zizek). We each have to choose what we believe in this respect because it is mostly impossible to separate the two. I prefer the former (JP's) position that gives agency to the individual to act rather than transfer responsibility to the collective.

    Michael HarringtonMichael HarringtonVor 2 Tage
  • (sniff) i (sniff) know (sniff) where (sniff) you (sniff) live.

    PadecPadecVor 2 Tage
  • A Marxist arguing with the "no true Scotsman" fallacy? No way...

    Stuart MarlowStuart MarlowVor 2 Tage
  • They really dress to reflect their beliefs

    Zack PaneZack PaneVor 2 Tage

    Christopher WilsonChristopher WilsonVor 3 Tage
  • 1:50:40

    Jack RoachJack RoachVor 3 Tage
  • Meat was not available most of times, not even in GDR and Czechoslovakia.

    titisuteutitisuteuVor 3 Tage
    • Plus China is not an example of perfect management of market forces. It is oppressive more today than 10 years ago because it fails to continue the economic growth that was occuring even 15 years ago. So they restrict freedom of the professional classes and intellectuals which are the most dangerous for the rule of the totalitarian CCP especially now that the promise of continuous economic growth cannot be maintained.

      titisuteutitisuteuVor 3 Tage
  • my house is not in order because of my actions, society is to blame for my mistakes. Jesus Zizek great points there

    No Idea for NameNo Idea for NameVor 3 Tage
  • This guy never did an honest days work in his life.

    Whip McCordWhip McCordVor 3 Tage
  • Maybe the whole problem is just that of giving these new amalgamated concepts a propper name that isn't derived from names of way past revolutionary people, which are loaded with all kinds of other concepts those people dealt with too? As Peterson refered to Zizeks view as Zizekism, maybe we should start calling the post-modern marxism or whatever by the names of leading representative people of the respective kind. But this is where Zizeks question for Peterson to name some of them is quite the difficult point, because there doesn't seem to be a leading fugure to these ideological progressions, but just a collective push from ideologically cestpooling minority groups. So there is hardly any individual to blame and name things after if not the last great revolutionaries of the 20th or 21th centuries. Should we call these things Victim-Culturism, Anti-Patriarchism, Snowflakeism? Trans-Bias'ism? Idiotism?

    StallnigStallnigVor 3 Tage
  • Peterson won just on the basis of public speaking, you can't understand the other guy with all of his spitting while he's speaking.

    Linden HawthornLinden HawthornVor 3 Tage
  • More pls

    ApplelouciousApplelouciousVor 3 Tage
  • Anybody else get a batman/joker vibe from the combination of these two? Not in terms of idealogy or morals or anything like that, but just in the sense that they are two sides of the same coin, and that neither could ever really win without on some other level conceding to the other. Except that in this case neither of them are the villian, the injustice lies in the media that vilified them both.

    D A-PD A-PVor 3 Tage
  • Jordan won easily.

    El Barn d'en GregEl Barn d'en GregVor 3 Tage
    • why?

      lacanianlacanianVor 2 Tage
  • This did not look like a debate of ideas to me, while JP presented clear ideas with prof in reality, the SZ merely talked about ideas with no application.

    Daniel VilciuDaniel VilciuVor 3 Tage
  • "Whenever you act, you err." That's dynamite.

    CalebCalebVor 3 Tage
  • 30:25 The NPC's CHEER for "Violent, Bloody Revolution" And Jordan Peterson pauses, thinking what to say. Then lets it go, as if to say "You are too ignorant for ANY words."

    Eric ClarkEric ClarkVor 3 Tage
    • anyone who cheers in a debate is pretty stupid. kinda like when ben shapiro says something and his audience starts clapping and cheering. so annoying.

      lacanianlacanianVor 2 Tage
  • No offense, but this guy sounds like Jar Jar Binks after he got his face caught in the energy binders of Anakin's pod racer.

    Benjamin KrakeBenjamin KrakeVor 4 Tage
  • "Karl Marx chose the myseries of bourgeois life." Russel Bertand

    Bostonian SBostonian SVor 4 Tage
  • There would be no rich China if it was not for “evil” capitalists.....

    J. VogtJ. VogtVor 4 Tage
  • Great debate with opposite mind.

    Richard KeghinianRichard KeghinianVor 4 Tage
  • Wow, Slavoj Zizek is very fucking intelligent. I tend to agree with JP's thoughts and philosophies most naturally, but Zizek is IMHO the best atheist leftist debater I have seen so far. He raises much more intellectually stimulating points than say Sam Harris, who I find to be more superficial and not as challenging for JP as Zizek. He probably doesn't get more invitations because - like in true communist fashion - the glitz doesn't attract him.

    Femme GemFemme GemVor 4 Tage
  • I suppose it would be extremely helpful , and also polite to put English subtitles under the parts of Dr Zizek to...!

    Jnb paraxenosJnb paraxenosVor 4 Tage
  • Man I respect Zizek's intelligence and such, but I just can't understand a word he fucking says. Which sucks, because I want both sides of a debate like this.

    SbreddragonSbreddragonVor 4 Tage
  • I'm not sure why I've seen a consensus here and there that this discussion was somehow "boring" or a "failure." Yeah, it probably wasn't framed properly because Dr. Peterson was led to believe he would be debating against someone who was going to defend Marxism (since, you know, he was the one who invited anyone who wanted to defend Marxism to come debate him and Zizek was the one who volunteered), but that's really nobody's fault and it doesn't make the discussion less interesting. At the end of the day, two great thinkers came together to tackle important existential issues, they explained their views to each other as honestly and as thoroughly as they could, they found places where they agreed and disagreed and explained why, and everyone involved probably learned something new. I think that's a pretty cool outcome.

    Ido KerenIdo KerenVor 4 Tage
  • Peterson isn’t an economist lol. Z Why don’t you commies have Zizek debate Thomas Sowell so we can all watch you commies get rekt???

    Hum BubHum BubVor 4 Tage
  • Idk how anyone can truly say either won this debate. Humanity was the real winner, and the only real loser is the viewer that thinks there was a winner.

    Rogue GenRogue GenVor 4 Tage
  • This Zizek is like all socialist/communist/totalitarian/statist/fascists. He lives in the west. He attended western universities. He enjoys living in a capitalist society. Why doesn't he move to China or Cuba or Venezuela. We have to remember socialism is never for the socialist. It is for everyone else. Lenin lived in luxury in the Kremlin. Hitler, as well lived in luxury at Berghof, while most of Germany struggled to keep a roof overhead. Stalin had multiple domiciles and the Russian people had none. Mao kept his actual domicile secret. He was often photographed in a small bare room for propaganda purposes. He often told the Chinese people he was struggling as they were. His fat robust appearance told a different story compared to his starving countrymen. Marxists are liar. They have to be in order to advance such idiotic notions in the public arena. They never tell you what the truth really is until it is too late to do anything about it. Remember Joseph Stalin's daughter died in Wisconsin. She defected not because she abhorred communism but because when her father died she lost her station in the new government. She would have to live like any common Russian. That just wasn't her cup of tea.

    Marshall FelderMarshall FelderVor 4 Tage
  • This was a truly interesting debate. It was healthy conversation between 2 schools of thought that mostly found points of agreement rather than dissent. Which is why I find it laughable the claim that Dr Peterson lost... He wasn't there to win...he went there to learn... And I'm sure he did. Slavoj Zizek is more vehement in his speech so it's easy for those who skim the surface of ideas to view this as a competition between 2 foes. Pay attention and you'd learn a thing or two like Dr Peterson.

    Olatunde AkinwunmiOlatunde AkinwunmiVor 4 Tage
  • funnz how im here 2 years later. and waldsterben is an actual thing and deforrestation of dead trees is a thing.! because of no harsh winters anymore all the little kritters dont die and entire acres of forrests are being cut down because the trees are dead. and they cant keep up with the dying.

    Bert HeinBert HeinVor 4 Tage
  • “Man is an animal suspended in webs of significance he himself has spun” Clifford Geertz. And a person is an animal that must navigate such webs of significance without necessarily accepting them in full while weaving his own. An individual must also do his best to understand his animal nature and how it affects his decisions, choices and actions within the context of this uneasy interplay.

    Ecquality Timber ProductsEcquality Timber ProductsVor 4 Tage
  • Look at the stage. Miserable Zizek drinks still water, Peterson drinks sparkling. Tells you everything you need to know.

  • The crowd is absolute aids

    om khetzom khetzVor 4 Tage
  • Order vs Chaos

    jhgkgcjgfjhgkgcjgfVor 4 Tage
  • Wow. This was absolutely fascinating. I'm incredibly grateful for both of these men!

    Jamie NelsonJamie NelsonVor 4 Tage
  • Something stuck in my mind when Zizek asked Peterson "Where are the Marxists?". James Lindsay, in his recent interview with Michael Malice, mentioned (or vice versa - I can't remember who said it) something about how Critical Race Theorists (whom Dr. Peterson would call Postmodern Neo-Marxists) like to get close to power, but not grasp it completely. They like to be the power behind the throne, because being in the spotlight makes you a target. The Marxists are there, but they're like Wormtongue in Théoden's court in Rohan (from J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings), whispering rotten words into the King's ear. It's funny that Zizek called them "vampires afraid of garlic and sunlight", because he was right. That's what they are.

    pwndbyagirlpwndbyagirlVor 4 Tage
  • *sniffs hand* *adjusts shirt* *wipes forehead* *adjusts shirt* *sniffs hand* *adjusts shirt* *sniffs hand* I watched the whole thing and now I get to laugh because it was so goddamn hard not to think about.

    ThatCrockpotThatCrockpotVor 4 Tage
    • @Henrik G believe it or not, that didn't get in the way for me. 2 days later I'm still laughing about his tics tho xD

      ThatCrockpotThatCrockpotVor 2 Tage
    • ...not to mention his horrible lisp. If it wasn't so interesting, I would never have watched through.

      Henrik GHenrik GVor 2 Tage
  • Peterson: - I despise groupthink! Zizek: - Don't applause us! Zizek's followers vs. Peterson's followers: - We brawl afternoon!

    koczisekkoczisekVor 4 Tage
  • was extremely interested to hear what Zizek had to say but way to hard to listen... and my wife is Russian esl

    lawrence Hoffmanlawrence HoffmanVor 4 Tage
  • Peterson's facts v Zizek's dreams

    João SilveiraJoão SilveiraVor 5 Tage
  • Zizek opening with China as a shining example of happiness, communism and capitalism combined, neglects that China only got to the economic position they are in by exploiting their status as a developing nation in the world market and not playing by the same rules that developed nations had to adhere to in the global marketplace. If it were not for the concessions given China with regards to pegging currency, no free trade but conditional trade. e.g. every corporation that wishes to do business in China must partner with a Chinese company and let their trade secrets be stolen and the mindlessness of globalist leaders who through ideology allowed China to get away with it long after they were supposed to float their currency and open trade and join the world economy as a fully fledged member sometime around the year 2000. As to happiness, shall we ask the Uyghurs, what of Tibet and the Falun Gong. While many will ascribe happiness to being under authoritarian rule, there are just as many who shun authoritarian rule and the overstepping of governments into controlling the live and thoughts of the citizenry.

    magottykmagottykVor 5 Tage
    • Thumbs up. He also fails to mention China was in abject poverty and about to collapse until Richard Nixon stepped in and brought capitalism to China. China would have been like Russia and the economy would have collapsed. That was the truth about the USSR. Can anyone name me a Russia brand car on an American highway? They didn't have the wherewithal to produce in a restricted society. This is why China progresses by stealing the secrets of others. They are incapable of idea generation in a modern world because they adhere to concepts of a century ago. Name me a Chinese brand car on the road in any country besides China. They just can't seem to get that going because Europeans, which have had excellent motor automobiles for over a century, know them to be inferior in all facets like design, reliability and style.

      Marshall FelderMarshall FelderVor 4 Tage
  • What the hell? I'm gonna have to turn on subtitles or something, because I can't listen to Zizek speak. Dude sounds like Sylvester from Loony Toons, and his lizard tongue thing is creeping me out. Seriously, I used to have a pet lizard that did that every few seconds. It was cute on a lizard, but creepy as fuck on this old Soviet guy.

    GoattacularGoattacularVor 5 Tage
  • Closed caption kinda works.

    dee nixondee nixonVor 5 Tage
  • ZiZek pointing out that there are two thought leaders on stage trying to solve complex problems is a good way to keep the dialogue open. ZiZak is no dumb man... We need balance. An eagle must have both its wings to fly. Ultimately we are just trying to find balance. If we can find balance we can find peace.

    dee nixondee nixonVor 5 Tage
  • I suppose that if you hold up the CCP as a model that promotes freedom, by now you are on very shakey ground.

    John-Peter HundtJohn-Peter HundtVor 5 Tage
  • The way they are dressed alone tells you who holds the higher ground. ZiZek appears to be a nice guy though,

    dee nixondee nixonVor 5 Tage
  • If that audience was sober, I'll eat my MAGA hat.

    GoattacularGoattacularVor 5 Tage
  • I wish I had taken his retainer out first

    Lukeus PerezLukeus PerezVor 5 Tage
  • I agree with alot of what Zizek says. But, the foundation needs to be capitalism and not marxism... I think he would be q great asset to capitalism but maintain the notion and improve and "liberalize" on it a bit. Alot of give and take, to get the wanted outcomes of marxism, (better health and schooling, and propagate creativity) but maintain the stability of capitalism.

    ItsOnlyGenjutsuItsOnlyGenjutsuVor 5 Tage
  • It’s very scary people actually need an explanation on why Communism won’t work. Seriously?

    Fraser BoyesFraser BoyesVor 6 Tage
  • Any speaker who thinks he can just “ramble on” without taking a break and looking at the audience and “giving examples” … is friggin DELUSIONAL !!! 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

    Bible Error . com Must SeeBible Error . com Must SeeVor 6 Tage
  • This Zizek guy starts talking about China as a non-precedent image of communist leadership and role model. People moving from rural places to cities to move to the middle class is technicalities to immerse individuals in an ideology of self sustain and progress as a whole (Which is truly false). I live in Venezuela, even though the topic is extremely broad, I will mention that by making the social economic classes spectrum much narrower, it means for everyone to have the same issues at the same levels. Poor people will stay living from welfare, the middle class has been eradicated. By that I mean what you would expect a middle class quality of life or "privilegies" are non-existant. As a 25 year old Chemical Engineer with no experience the current pay rates don't come close to bearing living expenses... for a week... The socialist construct being promoted by some ideologist with voices that represent current minorities topics are actually pushing this agenda onto people who look for better in the wrong models. The issue that a great thing can have side steps is not to be replaced by the wishfulness of a change, that we currently DO NOT NEED. Please USA, keep being brave and do not lose your constitutional rights!

    Don HenleyDon HenleyVor 6 Tage
  • 1:33:23 the most psychotic way to open a bottle

    Justas GriškevičiusJustas GriškevičiusVor 6 Tage
  • 17:00 Peterson deconstructing the Manifesto.

    Simply Red ScareSimply Red ScareVor 7 Tage
  • What is more annoying than the audience is the comment section here commentating about the audience, rather than what was actually discussed.

    MitLinksMitLinksVor 7 Tage
  • Jordan Peterson is like the Paris Hilton of social critique. Glitzy, shallow, and profoundly lacking in self-awareness. He's best suited for a forum where the winner is determined by an applause meter rather than depth of analysis.

    j Smithj SmithVor 7 Tage
    • Argumentum ad hominem is not really an argument.

      AvntXardEAvntXardEVor 6 Tage
  • how can anyone listen to zizek. sounds like he has a mouth full of spit ffs

    John ConleyJohn ConleyVor 7 Tage
  • The reason why Jesus says: "my god my god why have you forsaken me" is because he is quoting a Psalm 22. Read the Psalm and you might understand why he quotes it.

    NanaDontDieNanaDontDieVor 8 Tage
  • Are people really voluntarly want to listening to Zizek speaking? I mean i may also have some little problems with correct speaking but I can't to hear him cos he sounds like some hobo with 40 years of drinking career. No offense.

    TheLozeszkurTheLozeszkurVor 8 Tage
    • With all due respect. It was so hard to listen to him

      StereohearT.StereohearT.Vor 6 Tage
  • Gotta give it up to Zizek, he is one who wants to have conversation and not just point and yell bad and try to kill Jordan's character. This is the first time I've heard him talk and very intricate.

    Jeremy HeckJeremy HeckVor 8 Tage
  • And so on, and so on

    Михаил РуденкоМихаил РуденкоVor 8 Tage
  • 30:20 , communists cheering for "bloody violent revolution"... I don't think there's any hope for them.

    Yannis ChYannis ChVor 8 Tage
  • I still do not understand the fascination with Zizek. He speaks in platitudes and circumferential thinking without ever committing to any firm position in any plane of real thought analysis. He essentially agrees with everything and yet disagrees. He speaks with witty observations of those axioms that "interest" him without ever coming to a point of real understanding as does Dr. Peterson who has organized well-thought-out positions. Dr. Peterson, stresses confronting one's own limitations in a therapeutic context to improve one's life which is later reflected in the betterment of society. Zizek offers nothing more witticisms without any formula to self-improvement and hence the improvement of society.

    W3DCB W3DCBW3DCB W3DCBVor 8 Tage
  • What is that book that Zizek mentions at around 2:16:46?

    Ivan CamposIvan CamposVor 9 Tage
  • There's really no vs. here. It's more of a discussion than a debate.

    ph1losopherph1losopherVor 9 Tage
  • Capitalism vs Zizekism

    Marcos PanarioMarcos PanarioVor 10 Tage
  • Peterson criticises a book because its 170 years old but believes a book written 2000 years ago should be taken as the guide for our morality???

    Steven PSteven PVor 10 Tage
    • @om khetz i just read the words of God. Not man's interpretation. The most perfect being should have been able to just say " you shall not keep slaves" Rather than rely on the morals of our modern Society to end slavery

      Steven PSteven PVor 4 Tage
    • @Steven P ah I love how you brushed past the hundreds of teachings and hours of studying done to understand these stories just for you to come back with a half assed pathetic point about a "flaw" which has been debated time and time again only to be regurgitated by new age atheists. You're not worth my time

      om khetzom khetzVor 4 Tage
    • @om khetz yep i love the moral story about slavery in the new testament. Let's not talk about the old testament

      Steven PSteven PVor 4 Tage
    • The book from 170 years ago is a calling for violent revolution in order to get somewhat of a "utopia" The book from 2000 years ago has moral stories that outline the physiological and cultural influences upon society and philosophical findings that we still learn from today.

      om khetzom khetzVor 4 Tage
    • Yes

      D2xD2xVor 8 Tage
  • The first 7:30 minutes are ok, the rest are.. meh

    Buzz BelittleBuzz BelittleVor 10 Tage
  • Marxism was and is a dangerous and murderous lie!

    Ahmad FaisalAhmad FaisalVor 10 Tage
  • 30:19 What happened here? What's up with this crowd??