Down the rabbit-hole of Pocket Records and the mystery of a golden disc

17 Okt 2020
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A journey through the twists and turns of 1960s pocket records that ends with a mystery.
00:00 Hip Pocket Records
04:25 The downfall of HPs
06:13 8Ban comparison
07:28 Barclaytophone
09:14 Getting it working
12:42 Research
14:40 Enter Pocket Disc
18:18 Facts, Speculation and Questions.
FAQs
Q) Hey, the HiFi Vintage website you showed states the Barclaytophone was made by Clarville in France.
A) That’s an advert from a HiFi retailer trying to sell something they know little about. They’ve got their information wrong. The Barclaytophone was made in Japan by Toshiba. Japan is printed on the back of the device and all articles from the time state this particular machine was commissioned from Toshiba, as the OEM. In the US it was sold as the Music Swinger and branded as ABC and for France it was intended to be branded as Barclay. I didn’t mention the misinformation shown in that advert to avoid confusion. Clarville don’t factor into this one at all.
Q) Could the French language have something to do with Canada?
A) Nope. Barclay were responsible for launching the Pocket Disc in France. Americom were responsible for the US - but they only got as far as Seattle & Detroit before the business closed. Toshiba were responsible for Japan. A Canada launch would likely have followed at some point - but this hadn’t been planned for at the time the operation collapsed. Canadian residents also tell me that Japanese made electronics sold in Canada traditionally have English language labelling, the same as in the US.
Q) Why are there comments from a week ago when this video has just gone live today?
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KOMMENTARE
  • Where are the puppets ? They were great.

    homer simpsonhomer simpsonVor 4 Stunden
  • love your channel

    Vinyl 306Vinyl 306Vor 7 Stunden
  • Quebec 🇨🇦 is french.

    Mental FluxMental FluxVor 7 Stunden
  • the history you go into as well as the demo of the tech is just brilliant, so entertaining, can't believe i've only recently found your channel, thanks so much for all your work, really enjoyed it. :-)

    TheGreg6466TheGreg6466Vor 9 Stunden
  • It looks like... Crosley Steals your Cash. YEAAAAHHHHHH!

    Simon RussellSimon RussellVor 11 Stunden
  • As far as I know there were only two companies in the USA that made embossed vinyl flexidiscs: Americom, and Eva-Tone (who invented them). Occasionally we'd see them imported from either Asian suppliers or Lyntone in the UK, but those were our home-grown factories. My suspicion is that Americom was responsible, or at least handled the pressings, for both of those 4" formats. (They don't look like Eva-Tone's work to me.) I always wondered why Americom disappeared in the early 70s, while Eva-Tone thrived well into the 1990s. Now I know. (I expect Eva-Tone would still be around today had they not scrapped all their flexidisc equipment and switched their whole operation to cassettes in 2000!) By the way, there were Hip Pocket children's records here in the USA. I had one about Tom Thumb when I was a wee kid.

    Eric GrafEric GrafVor 13 Stunden
  • that barclaytophone has aged beautifully. I'd love to have that on my shelf

    FiassholeFiassholeVor 17 Stunden
  • This video came just in time! Recently my dad passed on his Philco ford r-1376-r player i had to jurry rig myself a battery box ti get her working again however im having trouble getting the turntable to actually play out of the speakers. Cartridge on tone arm and wires going in it are just fine so im pretty puzzled as to why it wont make sound.

    D NomadD NomadVor Tag
  • The comments match the content in fascination. So many socio-techno sleuths are attracted to this channel. Somebody should do a channel called, "Techmoaners" about the afterlife of a Techmoan post😁

    Barry KochBarry KochVor Tag
  • Pause at 19:36 and read the heading. You're welcome.

    Franklin BrooksFranklin BrooksVor Tag
  • That kangaroo mascot for "Disque de Poche" is SUPERB! She is SO cute! :D

    Alex Raven-PoeAlex Raven-PoeVor Tag
  • Incredible vid as per usual. Amazing research 👍

    Grandad GamerGrandad GamerVor Tag
  • Hello from Seattle! Wow, yet another example of pioneering audio tech from the Northwest, even another example covered on this channel!

    awesomeferretawesomeferretVor Tag
  • A bit off topic, but can you look at the story behind superbit DVD

    Alastair SavageAlastair SavageVor Tag
  • I'm French, and adding my 50 cent... I guess it's called Barclaytophone because cassette players in France were "magnétophones", so it has nothing to do with "Barclay To Phone", it is just trying to soung like a device everyone knew and la record label everyone also knew. So it is more likely to sound like the "to" in "tornado".

    Denis LefebvreDenis LefebvreVor Tag
  • Novelty sells as good as sex. Lower the price until you're losing profit and discontinue.

    Patrick ScottPatrick ScottVor Tag
  • Very good video. I grew up in the 60's-70's era in San Jose CA, and I've never seen these. You did a great job restoring this one. Kudos to you. I think this would have made millions, especially with the vending machine concept, if it was introduced in the 50's to early 60's. Unfortunately, cassette tapes started a big trend at the start of the 70's. So, this never had the time to really take off. I remember getting my first stereo system in around 1970. It had a radio, turn table and 8 track, and the 8 track was wasnt so popular by then. I was disappointed because it didn't have a cassette player. Lol. Thanks again for the great review.

    macD723macD723Vor Tag
  • Amazing detective work!

    MisterZalgoMisterZalgoVor Tag
  • that Barclay logo is surprisingly modern looking.

    FunkgunFunkgunVor Tag
  • Maybe the mini record players were thought to go in cars. 🤔

    Steven BirdSteven BirdVor Tag
  • Most of us in the US are familiar with the flexi disc only because we used to get them free, glued to the backs of cereal boxes. You could get a hit by the Monkees, the Archies, or even the Beatles for the cost of a box of Honeycomb or Alpha Bits.

    Enrico SanchezEnrico SanchezVor 2 Tage
  • Almost reminds me of the records we would get printed in magazines that you could play.

    Neil RoyNeil RoyVor 2 Tage
  • 69 cents... nice

    MystMicroMystMicroVor 2 Tage
  • TechMoan: Barclay is a French record label: www.45cat.com/label/barclay-fr Hip Pocket: www.45cat.com/label/hippocket-records Americom Pocket Disc: www.45cat.com/label/americom-pocket-disc

    Kurt LKurt LVor 2 Tage
  • 2:48 Hahaha "I think we're alone now" from Ted/Ted 2 fame

    RoodosutaaRoodosutaaVor 2 Tage
  • The most interesting Channel I stumbled over here on DEhave. Love the way you create or tell the stories about the tech. Thank you!

    Andrej MeschedeAndrej MeschedeVor 2 Tage
  • Another great find from Technowhinge ;-)

    Andy FtdAndy FtdVor 2 Tage
  • great stuff! ;)

    ozorgozorgVor 2 Tage
  • "Okay, so you don't want to buy smaller records for listening, but how about wearing them in your ears?" I don't know why, but I just _love_ this desperation.

    AkosJaccikAkosJaccikVor 2 Tage
  • I had one of these bad boys. The one where the lid is closed to play the mini record, the needle was fixed to the roof of the lid. It's sound was comparable to putting a transistor radio inside a cookie tin. Only had 3 records, with one song, on one side each. Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass was my 'go-to' jam. Life was so simple when you're 5 years old.

    Ian DunbarIan DunbarVor 2 Tage
  • Great info on a format I should have seen before but never have until today! I did have a flexi disc Monkees 45 disc from a cereal box and I listened to it as a kid in the 60s!

    R WR WVor 2 Tage
  • 19:36 The Dans La Meme Collection looks dank

    LordVarksonLordVarksonVor 3 Tage
  • Batteries getting stuck inside something what is this in Xbox 360?

    First Name Last NameFirst Name Last NameVor 3 Tage
  • In 2020 do record labels ever actually label a record?

    First Name Last NameFirst Name Last NameVor 3 Tage
  • They have a cool logo!

    GalloeGalloeVor 3 Tage
  • Long time viewer, first comment. The french language labeling could have been targeted to affluent Vietnamese. Further the disc durability and cost would have appealed to U.S. soldiers stationed there... Sorry, more questions than answers, I'm afraid.

    LJ ScottLJ ScottVor 3 Tage
  • A french connection? You sneaky sneak!

    Emmet YeencoonEmmet YeencoonVor 3 Tage
  • and as always, another truly fine video by Techmoan! and what an interesting product btw! would it be safe to say that by making something like this, the audio and music industry wanted to actually compete with the newly invented mini cassette players that this thing so closely resembles in looks, shape, size and portability? there had been many portable record players of all sizes and looks to play all record formats of for ages by then but this one looks very much like one of those Philips cassette recorder/players that came out in the early to mid 1960s, doesn't it?

    dadautubedadautubeVor 3 Tage
  • Barclay stands for Eddy Barclay which was one of the greatest music producers

    Ap MicAp MicVor 3 Tage
  • Brilliant mate, ace video

    70monkey70monkeyVor 3 Tage
  • As soon as I saw the logo for Barclay I immediately thought of the record label as my mum had a Charles Aznavour album that she used to listen to!

    Andy GilbertAndy GilbertVor 3 Tage
  • Thanx Matt to make me discover another audio format I've never heard about. Being french, I recognised the Barclay logo at first glance.

    CaptainDangeaxCaptainDangeaxVor 3 Tage
  • I got a bunch of them they are fun.

    James AndersonJames AndersonVor 3 Tage
  • That's some rather fascinating bit of oddware.

    Kenneth RogersKenneth RogersVor 3 Tage
  • IDK if Mat will ever see this but i don't want to inappropriately use his business email for something pertain to a video thats 2 years old. I found an ebay listing for new Calcupen refills that are compatible with both versions. If you do see this here is the link to it. www.ebay.com/itm/2x-New-BLUE-ballpoint-Refill-to-fit-vintage-1970s-Satolex-Calcu-pen-Calcupen2/333754108603?hash=item4db54b8abb:g:H3oAAOSwlYNcww~X

    Michael PersicoMichael PersicoVor 3 Tage
    • I bought some of those a while ago from that same seller - thanks for looking out.

      TechmoanTechmoanVor 3 Tage
  • Were it me, I might have tried deducing the polarity of the power jack by looking which ends of the battery compartment they were wired to. Prob with a switch-over contact there too, so 3 pins on the socket. Also looks like a standard jack socket rather than the DC barrel plug. Very annoying but common back then. The Sinclair ZX81 had a 3.5mm jack for power, the Spectrum had a barrel plug. Similarly the Atari 2600 and lots of Pong clones had a jack. Any idea why that was, anyone? The jack plug has the obvious disadvantage as a power supply of briefly shorting out the contacts as you insert the plug into the socket. Were DC barrel plugs not invented til 1982? I've never heard of alkaline batteries being wider than carbon ones. Surely they could make them literally any size they wanted? So why just-too-big? Anyway interesting so far. Dunno why they went with flexi though, those later became famous on the indie and punk scene for not even lasting as long as the bands did. And now you've got daft hipster twats today trying to re-launch cassette tape! T'ch! What's wrong with people? Bloody kids! We used them cos they were the best we could do, there's nothing better about them than tiny memory cards are, or just Bluetooth zapping a song across to a friend.

    greenaumgreenaumVor 3 Tage
  • Sam the sham looks like Caddicarus..

    Elias AstromElias AstromVor 3 Tage
  • This is just SO great. You are an investigative journalist Documentary writer. This is A class work. (except the question at the end, I never heard of PocketDiscs, but now I need answers :-))

    Marijn L.Marijn L.Vor 3 Tage
  • You seen the GAKKEN TOY RECORD MAKER yet - cuts records exactly this size and affordable....

    Rik MannixRik MannixVor 3 Tage
  • My father worked in a radio station when I was a kid, and used to occasionally bring me home some radio commercials that were recorded on a similar flexible film but they were simply cut square with the recorded track well within the square edges. They were similarly almost indestructible and although regular 45 single size, seemed to have good sound quality, probably using the platter surface as a solid backing helped. They were obviously made to play a few hundred times then go in the bin, and they would have been easy for producers to mail out being like a sheet of paper. Cheers, and thanks for another great one..

    AlasdairAlasdairVor 3 Tage
  • 69 cents ... nice

    Meowww ShaanjiMeowww ShaanjiVor 4 Tage
  • Fascinating. Thanks.

    John ChapmanJohn ChapmanVor 4 Tage
  • Gotta love the slightly questionable art on one side of that Beatles pocket disk. Is that the seed area of a apple... or something else...

    killerbee256killerbee256Vor 4 Tage
  • Very interesting.

    Otaku_GameFanOtaku_GameFanVor 4 Tage
  • So when does a selection become a collection?

    BiG AlBiG AlVor 4 Tage
  • whats the name of the electric tools you used to clean the battery componants as im after 1

    Adam SteeleAdam SteeleVor 4 Tage
  • That was a heck of a rabbit hole, took some unexpected twists and turns.

    ergosteurergosteurVor 4 Tage
  • Looks like you discovered a one-off build. Eddie was an Elon of his day and it didn't stick. My grandfather used to say that being special isn't unique, and being unique isn't always special. LoL

    Core ECore EVor 4 Tage
  • I don't ever remember seeing one

    Richard Golden-DeWittRichard Golden-DeWittVor 4 Tage
  • bar-clay-toe-phone

    Snark MarksSnark MarksVor 4 Tage
  • nice price

    19 day19 dayVor 4 Tage
  • 19:10 these are not the pocket disks you are looking for

    enthusiasticGeekenthusiasticGeekVor 4 Tage
  • Wearing records as earrings seems the most bizzare promotional idea ever.

    HaweaterHaweaterVor 4 Tage
  • 19:00 MEME

    Croix TuckerCroix TuckerVor 4 Tage
  • 69 cents?? nice

    SchimnesthaiSchimnesthaiVor 4 Tage
  • Techmoan: "How about a simple short video on this failed American record format from the 60s. Sure hope I don't discover something like 2 other obscure intercompatible formats. With all 3 formats having a complicated rabbit hole of a relationship involving corporate espionage, a french record label and toshiba. Speaking of, I need to find a dedicated player for those... *quick google search* Barclaytophone?"

    mrmimeisfunnymrmimeisfunnyVor 4 Tage
  • The original minidisc

    David FullerDavid FullerVor 4 Tage
  • Googling "Barclay record player" got you a Linn Sondek? Silly Google!

    Andis CernoksAndis CernoksVor 5 Tage
  • What a rabbit hole! You fell hard haha! Is that the same Quincy Jones that worked with Michael Jackson etc when we see the Barclay record?

    Marvin BerryMarvin BerryVor 5 Tage
  • I picked up the Lesley Gore one on a whim. Rather lousy sound and quite a bit of ‘rumble’ because of the thin vinyl. A novelty; intended for kids with cheap phonographs.

    Robert DohertyRobert DohertyVor 5 Tage
  • You don't need to see our barklay, move along, move along...lol I saw what you did there

    andrew1977auandrew1977auVor 5 Tage
  • On the subject of Philco, would love to see a Techmoan on the Philco "Beam of Light" phonograph from 1941, which used a light sensor to read the groove and also featured a wireless remote control, the "Mystery Control remote ". hard to locate outside the USA I'd imagine but highly innovative.

    Jonathan IvesJonathan IvesVor 5 Tage
  • You sound like Ringo Star, reminds me of Thomas the tank engine :)

    8Bit.Jay8Bit.JayVor 5 Tage
  • Oh no. I'm not getting notifications again.

    omegapork64 !omegapork64 !Vor 5 Tage
  • you sound like the guy who talks about Skyrim, this is so strange. somehow you're also a tech expert, i just thought you talked about video games.

    Still Reading BooksStill Reading BooksVor 5 Tage
  • These lookgood

    Neil MansfieldNeil MansfieldVor 5 Tage
  • So basically it’s like hit clips in the 60s... interesting See kids even your parents have something hit with... now the playing field is set

    picklerick-therichwoodkidpicklerick-therichwoodkidVor 5 Tage
  • I must say. I'd forgotten that song of Tiffany's was a cover. Weird Al wasn't around for the original version. Eh think it sounds better with a lady sings I think were alone now

    Lee BartholomewLee BartholomewVor 5 Tage
  • surely 'barclaymophone' would have been better in every way

    Kairu HakubiKairu HakubiVor 5 Tage
  • you my friend are a true custodian of media formats. thank you for your many hours of research, video shoots, and editing!

    trucker 9000trucker 9000Vor 5 Tage
  • There´s no better tech researcher than YOU!!! Greetings from Argentina!!!

    mahergustavomahergustavoVor 5 Tage
  • Bad Religion? Nice!!!

    Dayzed GamingDayzed GamingVor 5 Tage
  • add it to discogs!!

    The Basement LabsThe Basement LabsVor 5 Tage
  • 19:36 "La Meme Collection"

    PeytonPeytonVor 5 Tage
  • 4:17 what does “stacking singles” mean???

    fuckjoyafuckjoyaVor 5 Tage
  • Brilliant research as always. Thanks.

    UKDavidUKDavidVor 5 Tage
  • This was like solving a murder mystery. Fantastic work!

    alexanderalexandroualexanderalexandrouVor 5 Tage
  • 0:55 Nice

    Lurking_FinchLurking_FinchVor 5 Tage
  • I never knew this existed! Thank you very much for the thorough research.

    AuxiliumAuxiliumVor 5 Tage
  • 2:50 I didn´t know there was an original to this song: dehave.info/down/qaiZZZSpcHq12Ho/video

    Timico1000Timico1000Vor 5 Tage
  • Fascinating.

    Nik GnashersNik GnashersVor 5 Tage
  • 69 cents? Niiice.

    Adrian LucaAdrian LucaVor 5 Tage
  • Philco-Ford offers 4 recordings by Wilson Pickett, none of which is "Mustang Sally?"

    Rob BruceRob BruceVor 5 Tage
  • So the stick-on labels on the sides are in French, but why are the markings molded into the base in English? F/S on the speed adjustment instead of say V/R? And "Japan" instead of "Japon?"

    Rob BruceRob BruceVor 5 Tage
  • I would love to hear a playlist of these songs.

    moviemagicmoviemagicVor 5 Tage
  • French on things today is because they are destined for French speaking Canada.

    KathleenKathleenVor 5 Tage
  • I bought the Cosley player and the Beastie Boys record last year! 😁

    MarkusewitzMarkusewitzVor 5 Tage
  • When the lockdown is over you should DJ an all Pocket Records set somewhere.

    N.SputnikN.SputnikVor 5 Tage
  • Just as a tip, techmoan, if you aren't sure of the polarity of as DC jack, use your multimeter set to continuity or resistance, and probe between the ground on the battery terminal, and the barrel jack. Further, do invest in a lab power supply, even a cheapie. If you'd like some recommendations (either you or anyone else reading this), I'll be happy for my fingers to do the walking for you, and spit out a few recommendations. Just let me know!

    Moon MoonMoon MoonVor 5 Tage
  • dehave.info/down/g6KgocTUa4WxyXY/video if you're interested, that's the song on the golden record.

    TheGuyWhoIsSittingTheGuyWhoIsSittingVor 5 Tage
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