Here’s Why PS5 Joysticks Drift (and Why They’ll Only Get Worse)

19 Feb 2021
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Mere months have passed since the PS5’s hotly anticipated launch, and already there’s a class-action lawsuit brewing over joystick drift on Sony’s high-tech DualSense controllers. Who could have seen this coming? Well, as it turns out, everyone. Everyone should have seen this coming. Because for all its exciting new tech, the DualSense uses off-the-shelf joystick hardware with a long history of predictable, preventable issues. And now we’ve investigated those issues in excruciating detail.
Sony isn’t the only company to use off-the-shelf joystick modules, but, like Microsoft, they’ve made it difficult to repair this consumable component. Joysticks have a known life expectancy-it’s listed right in a product sheet from the manufacturer. In this video, we head back inside a DualSense controller to see what is failing, and how.
You can read more about joystick drift in our blog post on iFixit.com:
www.ifixit.com/News/48944/heres-why-ps5-joysticks-drift-and-why-theyll-only-get-worse
Links to other videos we reference in this video:
XQGaming: How to Repair Xbox One Analog Stick Input
dehave.info/down/f6ShiJSxrJ-lr2U/video
My Mate VINCE: Xbox One Controller - Trying different ways to FIX Stick Drift
dehave.info/down/i6iJldqvfGqX2KQ/video
SOSS GAMING: How to Replace Xbox One Controller Analog Joystick - Fix Stick Drift & More
dehave.info/down/pYyJkJPTaHWp16g/video
SOSS GAMING: How to Replace Xbox One Controller Analog Joystick - NEW METHOD [...]
dehave.info/down/h6Soq5HQf4yauHo/video
CYBER DIVER: 【SCUF/PS4コントローラー】【修理/分解】 勝手に動くスティックを新品に交換して修理する方法
dehave.info/down/doWbZcKrn2WvzHY/video
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  • A few notes: We started this investigation due to reports of PS5 DualSense controllers drifting, but as we mention at 0:58, these findings apply to most modern joysticks! 3:14 that carbon pad has been scratched with a dental pick. The actual wear to the pads will look different, this was a demonstration since we didn't have a drifting DualSense. 3:50 sprinkling goldfish crackers into your joystick will not fix drift. Don't try this at home. Don't miss Margot the puppy desperately trying to eat Cheez-Its at 5:47

    iFixitiFixitVor 7 Tage
    • A controller redesign with inter-changable Joy-cons would not be cheap sir. The only way to do that is to encase the joy-cons in a housing that can be removed from the joy-stick. Lawsuits would in-sue from children sticking that part in their mouth. Don't blame the Industry not wanting to get sued from Bad Parenting. So if the drifting is caused by Bad Up Keep, then it's Not the Manufacturers fault for players who are Slobs playing with their joy-sticks with dirty hands or eating while playing. It's not their problem by proof of this video.

      Ronald VRonald VVor 14 Stunden
    • @Matthew Lawton Also, if they made them defective on purpose they would lose money because they have to replace your controller for free if it fails in the first two years.

      Kaiser SoymilkKaiser SoymilkVor Tag
    • @Matthew Lawton first of all: all thumbsticks are soldered no matter the brand of the controller, and secondly: you don't need to desolder the whole thumbstick to fix the drift (as they have shown in the video, and as I did multiple times with success).

      Kaiser SoymilkKaiser SoymilkVor Tag
    • @Deepish Moog Or you can just fix it instead of buying a new one. This is an extremely easy fix, the intimidating part is to learn to disassemble and reassemble the controller.

      Kaiser SoymilkKaiser SoymilkVor Tag
    • @Murilo Araujo You could also have just calibrated the pads, I did that for my 360 drifting controllers and it never drifted again years later.

      Kaiser SoymilkKaiser SoymilkVor Tag
  • who still uses controllers?

    ShootN BlankZShootN BlankZVor 17 Minuten
  • Is easy to fix it

    DaodakDaodakVor 24 Minuten
  • At least someone is talking about the problems so they can fix it before people really get their hands on it

    Alyx GAlyx GVor 39 Minuten
  • Oh god Sony took the exit to Apple Street....

    Kjell TolKjell TolVor 57 Minuten
  • Bruh what. Why cant video game manufacturers make anything of quality these days? I have an original "the duke" Xbox controller and an original SNES controller. Both still work PERFECT. This drifting nonsense, plus the scalpers, has completely turned me off from getting a PS5. Good job Sony.

    Micro USBMicro USBVor Stunde
  • Why would they stop using 20 year old hardware when they can continue selling controllers at 70 a pop. It's a scam

    PixelatedPixelatedVor Stunde
  • My afterglow xbox 360 controller still works and I got it in 2015 lmao

    ThePigeon51ThePigeon51Vor Stunde
  • So they’ve all decided to make controllers that break, probably why I don’t bother buying these new systems

    Steve BSteve BVor Stunde
  • Might as well just use a PS4 controller, if it works on the PS5

    Joshua MonkJoshua MonkVor Stunde
  • wonder if a mouse ever had driftig issues... hm, maybe PC users wasn't so wrong using them the past decades...

    The FynnThe FynnVor 2 Stunden
  • Hey fanboys 🖕🏽

    Dale Dan TonyDale Dan TonyVor 2 Stunden
  • Anyone remember psp stick drift? Went through 5 of those suckers playing Monster Hunter Freedom Unite back in the day.

    Black StarBlack StarVor 2 Stunden
  • I think on linus tech tips they just showed a controller that has a modular system. Now if system manufacturers would make a similar system for their joysticks on the controllers it would be easy to buy new joysticks and swallow them out

    Tj WalkerTj WalkerVor 2 Stunden
  • Why are all controllers so trash? Nintendo has drift, Sony has drift and Microsoft has the weakest controllers I’ve ever used.

    Nugget YT6Nugget YT6Vor 2 Stunden
  • Thats crazyyyy I've never had a problem with my ps1, ps2, or ps3 controllers😑

    Nathan SedaNathan SedaVor 3 Stunden
  • Nice XB Series X on the right

    Ekimmara 302Ekimmara 302Vor 3 Stunden
  • no dust finally

    そかそかVor 3 Stunden
  • yet more resons why mouse and keyboard are superior , though i wish controllers were better , playing halo on my og xbox last week i could tell the sticks are old and uneven /less responsive

    jackass315jackass315Vor 4 Stunden
  • Hmm i see...I can use the arrow buttons for the games I play. Won't drift if they don't get worn out...Aside from thedirt I mean.

    White haired BadassWhite haired BadassVor 4 Stunden
  • I'm really curious to know if there's a way to produce more durable sticks in the same form factor and if so: what concrete changes would be needed and how much would that affect the price of the product? Anyways: awesome video, short and thorough

    MegatheriumMegatheriumVor 5 Stunden
  • I don’t know if it’s just I have good luck but I had bought a gold PS4 controller like 4-5 years ago at least and I’ve never experienced problems with it , but the ps5 controller on the other hand had the R2 button loose because of the new haptic feedback feature came loose in my controller like right away

    Prince LLCCPrince LLCCVor 6 Stunden
  • So sad placed a polyshine instead on alps

    Sherlan MamarilSherlan MamarilVor 6 Stunden
  • Alps

    Sherlan MamarilSherlan MamarilVor 6 Stunden
  • I use my 360 Controller for my Pc since 2010 and it works like charm.... I dont know alot of modern tech products arent as durable as their older parts.

    YesilYesilVor 6 Stunden
  • Controller hasn’t got drift yet, but both l2 and R2 springs broke within the first 2 months

    Jonathan QuinnJonathan QuinnVor 7 Stunden
  • Since they are using the same modules as the PS4 controller, isn't another point of failure the red pentagon shaped piece on the side which wears down when you do a lot of joystick movements while clicking in the joystick causing the controller to not register thumbstick presses. I realize developers have tried to solve this issue by having toggle run options in most games (especially COD), and that you will most likely experience drift before this issue arises. but I've had both drift and issues where you go to R3 and have to hit it 2 to 3 times for it to register, and wonder what the lifespan of that part is. I don't see it mentioned in the Spec Sheet either with a warning saying Don't hold down the joystick and rotate to much or you will regret it like it does for the springs.

    Trap_BandicootTrap_BandicootVor 7 Stunden
  • Maybe this happening because it's Chinese made 😆

    Wassim AkkireWassim AkkireVor 7 Stunden
  • Is there a way to connect ps3

    StepladderStepladderVor 7 Stunden
  • Do the Stadia controllers have the joysticks?

    Harry MagheraHarry MagheraVor 7 Stunden
  • Can any stick be like that ? Even in N64 controller or ps1 controller ?

    MMVor 8 Stunden
  • They want that you buy every 12 Monats a new one.

    Abdurrahman SzAbdurrahman SzVor 8 Stunden
  • You’re forgetting VAGINA the super hero of abuse!!!!

    00Tenrai0000Tenrai00Vor 8 Stunden
  • wait all ps5's controllers drift or just some of them?

    Deus Vlad2.0Deus Vlad2.0Vor 8 Stunden
  • I was today years old when I learned all the game companies have drift for the same reasons.

    Nick LongNick LongVor 8 Stunden
  • Can't believe Sony would stoop so low to copy Nintendo like this

    AaronatorrAaronatorrVor 9 Stunden
  • I have a question, why is this happening now?, i mean the DS4 v2.0 doesn't show this kind of problems

    nescienteTnescienteTVor 9 Stunden
  • Sony fanboy : this new controller has cool features Controller drifts Sony : this is a hidden features Fanboy : yesssssss

    Halo epicHalo epicVor 9 Stunden
  • What's with worse and worse quality controllers nowadays? I have a perfectly working Dualshock 1 controller, and that has been used for the past 15 years or so. Nowadays every controller drifts within a few years.

    Yudha BaskaraYudha BaskaraVor 9 Stunden
  • That is why a simple controller is best . Happy that Microsoft kept the same controller simple and effective

    Halo epicHalo epicVor 9 Stunden
  • the problem is console players are often like Apple users: They know nothing about tech and companies are abusing it and cheaping out on parts or making things irrepairable so you have to buy new one

    Raptor SwireRaptor SwireVor 10 Stunden
  • I had a 360 controller for 10 years and the rubber on the sticks (left stick mostly) almost had gone.I could literally feel the plastic behind it.Then 3 years later, it finally started drifting after obliterating it, after so many years later.

    Greglaz125Greglaz125Vor 10 Stunden
  • I haven't experienced any problems personally *shrugs*

    julian washingtonjulian washingtonVor 10 Stunden
  • Why is this problem not occuring with Hori controllers? Do they use a different, maybe older technique?

    Sebastian SchulzSebastian SchulzVor 10 Stunden
  • Sony should just come out with a joystick that has no drift 💯

    Jonah cookJonah cookVor 11 Stunden
  • Drop a fee drops of isopropyl alcohol and spin the joystick a bunch. That's literally all it takes.

    Caustic CactusCaustic CactusVor 12 Stunden
  • Your last point is the winner.

    P ManP ManVor 12 Stunden
  • Any chances of tearing down a surface go 2 tablet ?

    drifter4trainingdrifter4trainingVor 12 Stunden
  • Already??? Every single time. This problem happens in almost ever gen now.

    Erick De La CruzErick De La CruzVor 12 Stunden
  • Switch users: first time?

    thurm64thurm64Vor 12 Stunden
  • these shady ass big company lmao

    Miles LimMiles LimVor 13 Stunden
  • So in essence, switch to MnK

    ZerOZerOVor 13 Stunden
  • Seems like newer DualShock 4 controllers suffer from the same problem, the one I bought more recently experienced drift after only a couple of months. While you say that the problem can't be entirely put at Alps, if if was a common part of DS4 controllers, and the drift is evidently a more recent issue, then clearly something they did to the hardware is accelerating wear by exponential magnitudes.

    Seth AbercrombySeth AbercrombyVor 14 Stunden
  • Where'd ya get the flannel?

    Adam AdameeAdam AdameeVor 14 Stunden
  • Buy battle Beaver ps5 controller. Although expensive, it's wayy cheaper than buying 4-5 controllers over the consoles lifetime

    Imran AImran AVor 14 Stunden
  • I'd love to see this for the Quest 2 controllers. Maybe I was an anomaly, but one of mine started drifting within 2 months.

    Anthony ViteraAnthony ViteraVor 14 Stunden
  • So basically wait with purchase untill they sell ps5 v2

    JapyooJapyooVor 15 Stunden
  • Xbox: it it ain't broke, don't fix it Sony: next gen Also Sony: oops

    Imran AImran AVor 15 Stunden
  • Still rocking a 360 gamepad from the legend days- just revived my old Xbox and can't be happier I did it- I just freaking updated my cloud with gamesaves

    Gabriel PGabriel PVor 15 Stunden
  • Nintendo Switch users: First time?

    GrantRGrantRVor 15 Stunden
  • Finally someone explaining this problem correctly. GG

    PsyKoticPsyKoticVor 15 Stunden
  • Maybe they should add calibration just as a regular feature you can pull up in the setting?

    NucleodNucleodVor 16 Stunden
  • Is there any way to make these more reliable at all?

    TheYiffyStickTheYiffyStickVor 16 Stunden
  • Wow, certainly the best, most logical & precise vid ive yet seen describing joystick drift/breakdown. Nice one guyz!!!

    Heroic GooHeroic GooVor 16 Stunden
  • So what you are basically saying is that xbox is better

    bodyemcalbodyemcalVor 17 Stunden
  • Joysticks should be somewhat modular at this point, replacing a whole 60$ controller just bc the bumper broke is anticonsumer

    Carlos GuijónCarlos GuijónVor 17 Stunden
  • I'm also curious to see the durability of the DualSense in the long run; will they fall apart like the DualShock 4?

    weedblasterweedblasterVor 17 Stunden
  • fine, but you didn't explain how this is avoidable? What is the alternative? If there is none and this is "reasonable wear and tear" then there is no "villain".. Although I must say, it's strange that my first PS4 controller that came with the console (several years old) works great and is played with daily, while all other controllers I bought with time got stick drift.

    ImDinoImDinoVor 17 Stunden
  • Any joystick can drift, My PS4 joystick who has been with me for 6 years and still continues to work flawlessly: (*_*) Σ(ಠ_ಠ)

    Abdul RaheemAbdul RaheemVor 17 Stunden
  • Don't worry about these bugs. Sony will correct all of them soon!

    nickolopoulosgamernickolopoulosgamerVor 17 Stunden
  • Companies must be going cheap on making these products nowadays. Even a GameCube controller from nearly 20 years ago has a working joystick.

    CrzypenguCrzypenguVor 18 Stunden
  • “why doesn’t sony make affordable controllers?” sony: short controller lifetime make money go brrrrrr 💰

    Chris Is VibingChris Is VibingVor 18 Stunden
  • Xbox: if it ain't broke, don't fix it Sony: let's add all of these features that developers are definitely (not) going to use.

    Angel MartinezAngel MartinezVor 18 Stunden
  • This is why I always wait till problems get fixed b4 I buy a new console

    Keith FitzroyKeith FitzroyVor 18 Stunden
  • Sony down bad rn

    Rashad ScruggsRashad ScruggsVor 18 Stunden
  • Thanks DEhave for recommending this to me *after* I ordered mine lmao 😐

    Evan PryceEvan PryceVor 18 Stunden
  • I play video games quite alot. Tons of fps and racing games, and since last gens release (xb1 ps4) I haven't gotten any stick drift. And I usually use the original controller that comes with the console. I had both. And now ps5, no issues. Weird. 😬

    Ronald MedfordRonald MedfordVor 18 Stunden
  • oh Wow, the PS5 is huge (or you're a very small human) ... i didn't realize it was that big.

    knessi ngknessi ngVor 18 Stunden
  • So buy a mouse and keyboard. Got it.

    Sol Dust2313Sol Dust2313Vor 19 Stunden
  • Mymatevince SPOTTED!

    Aldo99Aldo99Vor 19 Stunden
  • And this is why you don’t buy wave one consoles Imagine buying a $1000 ps5 from a scammer and the controller starts to drift in a week

    myfatassdickmyfatassdickVor 20 Stunden
  • Fixing drifting controllers could literally be an industry itself! Would be crazy to see Sony and Microsoft goes after drift fixers, would expose there shady capitalism even more. Note: Capitalism is fine, but there is sometimes they go way to far.

    RepzRepzVor 20 Stunden
    • Don't forget Nintendo, out of the three big guys Nintendo needs drift fixed the most

      sebisonicsebisonicVor 20 Stunden
  • So guess who wins for most reliable controller?

    thewalkingbruhthewalkingbruhVor 20 Stunden
  • Check scuf gaming, they make controllers, maybe they do the exact same thing.

    RepzRepzVor 20 Stunden
  • They don’t drift, I’ve had mine a while and none of my friends, who’ve had them since launch, have had ANY drift at all. BS.

    Nate PetersNate PetersVor 21 Stunde
  • So the short answer seems to be: Parts wear out, and parts that move a LOT wear out faster. I mean from what I can tell the part itself is a good quality, but yeah, nothing like that is gonna last forever. I feel like a modular replacement system would be the most apt solution, but fitting that into a standard controller housing might be tricky at best.

    RunicRasolRunicRasolVor 21 Stunde
  • Squirt wd40 in it... done.

    RychuznezRychuznezVor 21 Stunde
  • Mine isn’t drifting yet, but it’s whatever. They’ll give us a replacement or allow us to send it in for repair eventually.

    km_1911km_1911Vor 22 Stunden
  • Me who doesn’t even want a ps5: *hmm interesting*

    elliot_is_smartntelliot_is_smartntVor 22 Stunden
  • let’s just bring back the original nes controllers. those thing just worked.

    H00psH00psVor 22 Stunden
  • Dualshock 3 never had a problem

    brian rizzobrian rizzoVor 23 Stunden
  • Wouldn't this video be more informative with the title "Here's Why All Current and Last Gen Controller Thumbsticks Drift" or "PS5 Thumbstick Drift Is Identical To All Other Thumbsticks Since 2013"? We shouldn't be pretending this is a PS5-only issue if it affects every console on the market since 2013.

    ArchaenArchaenVor 23 Stunden
  • Wait ps5 is real thing? I thought it just a myth

    I'm not sureI'm not sureVor 23 Stunden
  • I clean my PS5 controllers with Monster Energy Ultra Violet. It extends controller-life indefinitely and results in 69% more headshots.

    Ryan CarterRyan CarterVor 23 Stunden
  • Unbelievable. My great grandma's Kenmoore PlayStation 5 controller is 80 years old and still kicking.

    Ryan CarterRyan CarterVor Tag
  • PS4>PS5

    GMAIL USERGMAIL USERVor Tag
  • Is it possible to replace the problematic parts, with higher quality parts? Essentially 'performance' upgrades? If so would be nice if you guys could possibly do a video on that

    Paul SamuelPaul SamuelVor Tag
  • Can you prevent the drift? I mean my ps4 controller I’ve had for years and it’s mostly fine (except for its battery life lol)

    Plant/Vegetable Rights MatterPlant/Vegetable Rights MatterVor Tag
  • fml

    DarylDarylVor Tag
  • My xbox 360 sticks are still like new but my ps3 switch and ps4 are all in some way broken 🤔

    El FelonEl FelonVor Tag
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