Jordan Peterson | Full interview | VPRO Documentary (2019)

15 Sep 2020
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This interview was not conducted to be a stand-alone interview, it was conducted for a Dutch documentary about male/female-dynamics in Canada. Within this documentary, we explored how an event like the Toronto van attack could happen in Canada and how Canadians are trying to heal from it. More broadly, we looked at misogyny and violence against women within Canada, and what it is about contemporary feminism that makes some men angry or lost. We also paid attention to men suffering from violence that their female partners had inflicted upon them. As prominent Canadian voices, we included both Margaret Atwood and Jordan Peterson.
Psychology professor Jordan Peterson has become a controversial figure ever since speaking out against Bill C-16 (2016), a law which adds gender expression and gender identity to the Canadian Human Rights Act. He has received both praise and criticism after the publication of his self-help book 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos (2018). His fans are thankful for the advice he’s given them to take responsibility for their lives, his critics argue that his emphasis on the danger posed by ‘postmodern neo-marxists’ is dangerous in itself. He has been accused of being anti-feminist and feeding into the alt-right. While he gained support among people who do identify with the alt-right, he himself does not.
Peterson has become an important inspiration for various men’s groups, an influential voice. Therefore, we wanted to get clear where he stands on contemporary feminism and how he interprets the van attack, which took place in the city he lives in. Since the documentary episode only allowed for brief passages from the interview, while Peterson’s answers are extensive, we decided to provide the entire interview.
We talked to Peterson on the 4th of June 2019, in Toronto, Ontario. Since there were some breaks (for adjusting the camera and for having coffee) during the interview, it consists of multiple takes. Apart from leaving out the breaks themselves and making the transition between breaks more fluent, no further editing has been done.
The documentary about the Toronto van attack and male-female dynamics in Canada is available here:
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  • 1:46:05 ooooof

    Crevan IzekilCrevan IzekilVor 7 Stunden
  • Feminism is Cancer.

    Coiled SteelCoiled SteelVor 21 Stunde
  • The interviewer is an ignorant idiot. Terrible ideologues.

    Ben SopBen SopVor Tag

    John McHughJohn McHughVor Tag
  • Sounds like Yoda. Wise like Yoda. Brave like Yoda. Selfless like Yoda. Is Yoda.

    K.C. KelleyK.C. KelleyVor Tag
  • The part since 1:44:10 to 1:49:30 its too hard. Its a K.O. Thx for the interview

    Wilson DíazWilson DíazVor Tag
  • I Feel like listening to Socrates when I listen to him.. Practical.. Deep.. Sensible.. Knowledge that is Usable.. and useful.. discussing things that makes us better our lives.. than for the sake of just talking..

  • The West is advancing towards crisis and collapse if we don't heed this man's message. The political Left is pushing us towards catastrophe and collapse with war as a bloody and violent as a consequence.

    Righteous GodRighteous GodVor 2 Tage
  • I am a woman and I never thought the Bible says women have to be subservient to men, and I'm not even religious. Who are these women?

    ramblestation1ramblestation1Vor 2 Tage
  • He looks like a beaten man...still walking....eyes are cold and liveless. What happened?

    lost and foundlost and foundVor 3 Tage
  • he ain't wrong. As a journeyman welder/fabricator I can tell you that my job has destroyed my body. So y'all can enjoy fruits, vegetables, meats ect that you don't have to pick/harvest for yourself. But we never get commendations. We just bust our ass on a daily basis. Toxic masculinity is a disgusting term. The world would be nothing without men.

    Live And InspiredLive And InspiredVor 3 Tage
  • Perfect example of someone who did not take his own advice what so ever...........the guy didn't know that xanax is addicted and can tell that he himself knows that he is ful of shit and did not take his own advice..ppl who follow this guy are total fucking tools

    PheeneZPheeneZVor 3 Tage
  • 1:45:22 He said it, it must be true!😂

    fusionexfusionexVor 3 Tage
  • I am watching this for the second time. Who is the lady interviewing him, does anyone know ?

  • Waaaaaww,,,, lovely,,, thank you.

  • It never ceases to amaze me how utterly competent jordan is with the condescending ignorant people who interview him. I wonder how souless you'd have to be to not to just weep at his beauty and compassion with every word he speaks. his devotion to helping the world with his brilliance is to be embraced like a rare gem

    artemiss theeartemiss theeVor 3 Tage
  • I love Jordan...but he definitely felt the Tyler Durden notion that morning. I wanted to destroy something beautiful

    Stephen MorrowStephen MorrowVor 4 Tage
  • The reason his message was needed and so important is that a 'right' can only be granted by someone else. A responsibility is something you own and you grant yourself. Therefore it can never be truly taken away.

    Stephen MorrowStephen MorrowVor 4 Tage
  • The woman doing this interview is ignorant

    Machelle StupfelMachelle StupfelVor 4 Tage
  • He's not just a psychologist he is a renaissance man, a soothsayer of our time the sad thing is that once he's gone is when a plethora of haters will turn into fans. I hope he's alive so my kids can experience him.

    Cesar MillanCesar MillanVor 4 Tage
  • Lobe Jordan, he's such a wise man. The fact google tried silencing him by shutting down his accounts says it all..

    Chelsey TurnbullChelsey TurnbullVor 4 Tage
  • The marxists used to murder the intellectuals in the Soviet Union, no wonder all the SJWs hate him.....

    Katie ElizabethKatie ElizabethVor 5 Tage
  • Woman here who loves Jordan Peterson!

    Katie ElizabethKatie ElizabethVor 5 Tage
  • Jordan constantly destroying these leftist interviewers every time !

    Katie ElizabethKatie ElizabethVor 5 Tage
  • You can notice that as she speaks more bullshit her voice gets softer

    Gav ArtGav ArtVor 5 Tage
  • All the elementary teachers are women. Hahaha, well there is the problem hahahah

    Roger DanaRoger DanaVor 5 Tage
  • Another soft women calling out rape for attention. The difference of intelligence is overwhelming.

    Roger DanaRoger DanaVor 5 Tage
  • As I watch this high as a kite I see a man, a gifted mind, that is astonished that he lives in a world where he has to argue for common sense. A man astonished that he has become famous simply for speaking traditional facts as we've known them for ages. A man so bewildered by the transgressions of the looney left politics that it has become a burden upon his soul. I see a brave man. A man we desperately need. I've only met this man through his videos about a week ago and in that short time I've come to respect and admire him. He has become the prescription to our current life and times. The antidote for lunacy. Protect this man at all costs. Civilization cannot afford to lose him. God bless you Professor!

    VMIVMIVor 5 Tage
  • This is some of the most important and life altering knowledge you will ever come into contact with. Thank you Dr. Peterson.

    Gaming SoloGaming SoloVor 6 Tage
  • The interviewer is not very smart...

    R CR CVor 6 Tage
  • Those outside noises are annoying af

    D CD CVor 6 Tage
  • He could really benefit from giving up his modern day witch hunt, acknowledge the fact that there ARE major imbalances in the experiences of men and women, that there IS such a thing as toxic masculinity. Too much of anything becomes toxic, hello? Men are often held to an impossible standard that pushes them toward that toxic masculinity, and there's a pattern of it resulting in destruction and pain for whoever is unlucky enough to get in their way. All he does is paint his ideological opposite with a broad brush of "evil" and it does nothing to actually further the discussion, his only goal is to shut the discussion down.

    nightgauntsnightgauntsVor 6 Tage
  • 1:17:54 there's books about Harry Potter too. This interviewer is seriously underqualified.

    robsmorsrobsmorsVor 6 Tage
  • Thanks God for stupid questions because Dr. JP has the exactly and precise answer! 😍😍😍🙏🙏🙏

    yaneth rinconyaneth rinconVor 7 Tage
  • Yes many of us are starving to hear normal things ..

    Vicky VickyVicky VickyVor 7 Tage
  • I imagine that any organization who does anything on which Dr. Peterson would be a necessary authority to interview may need to have a meeting where they draw straws for who is going to have to keep their cool professionalism when he passionately addresses their own pet ideas and sensitivities.

    Alyssa SmithAlyssa SmithVor 7 Tage
  • Just completed watching the whole interview. AWESOME gentlemen with true bold statements and conviction about how things should be if we are to be a civilized society. Loved every bit of it.

    A BA BVor 8 Tage
  • "I don't like ideologues, because they don't like to think, they just like to think that they're right." I love this line. It speaks volumes of any group of people, from *either* side of a debate, whom merely chose their side to *avoid* introspection. Remember, people, choosing a personal mindset is *much* more productive than choosing a *side.*

    Corwin KeylonCorwin KeylonVor 8 Tage
  • For the first time in my life I found me, vocalizing the same exact words for the misunderstood word of equality or inequality between males and females. Three simple words are absolutely required in hiring or electing officials, IQ, CQ, EQ. The absence of them is enough for disqualification of the process going forward any further.

    A BA BVor 8 Tage
  • I'm high as shit. I searched for this interview. Amanda,, for good reason.

    Jarrad HutchinsonJarrad HutchinsonVor 9 Tage
  • Liberals are incapable of comprehending literally anything... if he can't explain these simple concepts to these morons, no one on earth can. That's a fact

    Kevin FKevin FVor 9 Tage
  • I do not fear him,though I consider myself "liberal". He does put things in large perspective. I find his perceptive interesting and illuminating, waking me up, thank you !

    Diane DragonDiane DragonVor 9 Tage
  • Making everyone the same is heresy and it destroys the beauty of humanity.

    Thaddeus MaximusThaddeus MaximusVor 10 Tage
  • I truly love you Dr. God bless you and keep you.

    Thaddeus MaximusThaddeus MaximusVor 10 Tage
  • 20:41 2019 right? Give it a year.

    eCouchPotatoeeCouchPotatoeVor 10 Tage
  • This man has saved so many lives at the risk of his own health, reputation, and strife that he should be awarded sainthood

    chris reedchris reedVor 10 Tage
  • Western civilization is highly underrated and unappreciated, especially by the west.

    John ElderJohn ElderVor 10 Tage
  • The interviewer is hysterical. She wants Dr. Peterson to limit his answers and explanations to topics she feels comfortable with, in order to challenge his positions. Unfortunately, for her, he has spent a lifetime in studying these issues and the related research. It's like a paralegal wanting to argue a case before the Supreme Court.

    John ElderJohn ElderVor 10 Tage
  • This man is a legend.

    Sarah RistainoSarah RistainoVor 10 Tage
  • when she hears what she doesnt wanna hear " lets move on" lmao

    Ty HTy HVor 11 Tage
  • do you hear this chick and her ego. i m only child and i m good. and i studied psychology so i understandwhats going. its funny she thinks that she is right and she is pushing a narrative that is based on ignorance.

    Ty HTy HVor 11 Tage
  • This an idiot

    DZ FDZ FVor 11 Tage
    • To this Wo man...hes a real man...a smart one...a man of God...and u sweatheart cant talk for all u sound rediculous...just ✋

      DZ FDZ FVor 11 Tage
  • This man is very inspiring and I have yet to see anyone discredit him with FACTS I wish more people with a platform to reach as many sexists "feminists " damn snowflakes think they have to medal with something that's working at 85% to get it at 90% u have a 1 in a million chance of its outcome to be good and a million ways it will make it worse

    Goreface23Goreface23Vor 11 Tage
  • I love him so much 🥰💕🥰💕🥰💕🥰💕🥰

    Cecelia phamCecelia phamVor 11 Tage
  • Amazing man! Love his work!

    Cheryl NealCheryl NealVor 11 Tage
  • Proves that real men can cry. Every word is gold. The man is a saint.

    Kristi SecretKristi SecretVor 12 Tage
  • Jordan B. Peterson whether he knows it or not is being used by God as one of his most powerful mouthpieces to spread his message to the people and leaders of this world that we need to hear right now to stear us in the direction that he wants us to go in but he is too humble of a man to believe it.

    Kenny SKenny SVor 12 Tage
  • Bless her heart ...she's pretty slow... I should go back and edit my remarks and be kinder... Nah... I don't even know how many DEhave videos Jordan has online but she could watch them all ....and not be dumb

    Jim HughesJim HughesVor 12 Tage
  • Women feel?... You don't think I feel?... I'll tell you how I feel little girl... I feel like that we should recognize facts and align our thinking with them... My wife runs my house... And I'm damn glad

    Jim HughesJim HughesVor 12 Tage
  • Trying to save the world you goofball more on woman who has no idea what's going on... Wait... Did I just say that out loud!

    Jim HughesJim HughesVor 12 Tage
  • So if you fight back against insane morons who want to destroy society...YOU are polarizing... There is no way that woman can be this stupid

    Jim HughesJim HughesVor 12 Tage
  • AOC holds public office because she's a woman... That was a bad decision... Don't get me wrong, I mean Bernie Sanders is not any better ...

    Jim HughesJim HughesVor 12 Tage
  • God she's so stupid Lord help me.... It seems to me and not make any difference what gender you are... What the people need in a judge or an MP is someone fair-minded upstanding and of utmost unimpeachable moral character... Who cares if it's a man or woman if you have the proper qualities... That's what me and Jordan Peterson believe!!! Dang I feel so smart right now!!

    Jim HughesJim HughesVor 12 Tage
  • So glad to see that he never lets up in this interview.,. It's almost as if he's hoping that she will eventually understand that there is a small possibility that she doesn't know squat ....about anything evidently.... Poor girl

    Jim HughesJim HughesVor 12 Tage
  • After reading your book, Watching all of your videos, should be proud of the common sense..defined roles you've Re-established in humanity

    Joanna ColeJoanna ColeVor 12 Tage
  • Is it possible that she's just pretending to not know what's going on in the world?

    Jim HughesJim HughesVor 12 Tage
  • There's nothing sadder than to see that "glow" Mesmerizing our young & Younger children. Its a soul sucking babysitter

    Joanna ColeJoanna ColeVor 12 Tage
  • For this woman's information, I am a woman, NOT a feminist, and I absolutely love listening to Jordan and agree with 100 percent of what he says. I think he should be promoted in schools, what he has to say is what most kids are needing to hear.

    Wendy GregoryWendy GregoryVor 12 Tage
  • In the Dutch documentary “Paradise Canada” in which they/the interviewer edit clips from this interview, JBP is framed unfairly. After the second clip the voice-over goes: “because everyone who disagrees with him, JBP calls a nazi.” Jeez, really? And after a third clip (JBP talked quite forcefully and with emotion) she goes “I’m looking for a more calm and relax Canadian man now.” Lovely framing there, miss feminist. If you’re going to include JBP in your documentary, at least make an effort to not ridicule the man who so many readers find solace in. Really boggles the mind how especially these highly educated people are making one-sided products themselves.

    AlpsRootnoteAlpsRootnoteVor 12 Tage
  • Why you wanna cry? human beings are the true evil. because of you I'm trying to be a virtuous human being working on construction

    Joseph DominguezJoseph DominguezVor 13 Tage
  • I want to see the interviewer

    Cancel CancelCultureCancel CancelCultureVor 14 Tage
  • I can't wait to vote Trudeau out!

    Sorellita BassSorellita BassVor 15 Tage
  • God this women was so inept. She kept retorting already affirmed beliefs and responses, in a very on-the-surface manner, without ever actually listening and engaging in intellectual discussion and argumentation. Quite inadequate for an interview with the caliber of person that is Jordan Peterson.

    Vukasin IvkovicVukasin IvkovicVor 15 Tage
  • 1:46:00 "And I don't like ideologs, cause they don't like to think. They just like to think that they're right, and they're not right."

    Vukasin IvkovicVukasin IvkovicVor 15 Tage
  • I had a very strange conversation with Jordan Peterson. Then I woke up and this video was still playing

    Paul BarrettPaul BarrettVor 15 Tage
  • 44:15 ''..fools leap in where angels fear to thread." What a powerful quote

    Vukasin IvkovicVukasin IvkovicVor 15 Tage

    georgemarsonegeorgemarsoneVor 15 Tage
  • Jordan DESTROYED this silly girl who did not LISTEN!

    SandermanSandermanVor 15 Tage
  • How fucking DARE you demonize men like that! You have good lives BECAUSE of them!

    SandermanSandermanVor 15 Tage
  • This woman is so out of her league she is on another planet. She also doesn’t understand what the dunning Kruger effect is and she is a classic example of it.

    TommyGunz327TommyGunz327Vor 15 Tage
  • I love how the interviewr's voice keeps shrinking because she didnt think through her questions outside of her suuuuuper entitled, victim mentality. She doesnt know what to think about being told how ridiculous it is to attempt to identify a pattern of behavior based upon 2 wackos committing a violent crime that, specifically, hasnt even been perpetrated for close to 2 decades, lmfao. I cant believe these crybabies dont think about their ideas outside of their own minds and their group's mind...hell, i think like that for no reason, but if i were to go on camera interviewing a brain this big, i would damn sure spend extra time exclusively just thinking about it and anticipating every possible response. If u get put n ur place and u can only respond by speaking n a diminished tone as if u just had ur butt spanked, u clearly didnt think about any of this to prepare...smh

    Jeremy MoonJeremy MoonVor 15 Tage
  • I am amazed at the ridiculousness of the woman questioning my good friend Jordan. She is so cloaked in hate that she cannot stand up and listen. She has an agenda and she could not keep it under control in her own mind. LOL.. She only wanted to try to either confuse or trip of a genius. She failed miserably. Regardless of what the content of the interview was, she did not like anything he said, because it was all true. What a bloody bitch.

    Peter PedersenPeter PedersenVor 15 Tage
  • Over 1.1k down votes at the time of this comment, not one negative comment posted though (I searched for a while, lol) ... the odds that someone that hears these words and interprets them as "alt-right white supremacist woman hating bigot" are also coincidentally the same folk that can't articulate their own thoughts enough to even share why they down voted. They're the types to win a free 4 course meal at a 3 Michelin star restaurant and spit the food out because they "prefer" chicken nuggets from McDonald's, and then have the gall to go home and take the time to give the place a bad public review, simply because they are unsophisticated and feel entitled to their "opinion", which if were on a scale from 1-10 or earned or not would rate a one. True *compassion* for those with underdeveloped/ ill-exposed minds is the correct word.

    Real Talker 101Real Talker 101Vor 15 Tage
  • Look up David Zhang about CCP communists in America.

    gerrilantergerrilanterVor 16 Tage
  • Im 47 years old...not of this generation, however all I hear nowadays is opportunist after comedian after old and out of touch, blaming this generation for what greed and fascism has done to this world. The line that most comedians use this generation is too soft has been given again and again and again "back in my day I walked 4 miles to school in the snow" while that might be true atleast true progress has no or very little space for bigotry and imperialism and people that can word salad an argument to death without saying something like this CRY BABY!

    Michael GustafsonMichael GustafsonVor 16 Tage
  • Playing word games with a tenured psychologist .....not a good idea

    Deivi MartinoDeivi MartinoVor 16 Tage
  • As a woman I appreciate and love Jordan’s view and interpretations.

    Tessa HarbuttTessa HarbuttVor 16 Tage
  • The best interview I’ve heard with Jordon, so glad these interviews are made available unedited.

    B. DangerfieldB. DangerfieldVor 16 Tage
  • He's brilliant and passionate.

    cathy daincathy dainVor 16 Tage
  • Roughly half the conservative right and red pill folks don’t hold antipathy towards women because they are women. People that make uneducated guesses.

    cogit8ablecogit8ableVor 16 Tage
  • One more item - This interviewer is lacking the ability to logically process what Jordan is trying to engage her with ---- Sad ...

    John WoodyJohn WoodyVor 17 Tage
  • From just the comments that I have read in reference to this interview, what can I add ? Only that he's a absolute brilliant communicator ...

    John WoodyJohn WoodyVor 17 Tage
  • I had 1 job where my boss was a woman. In all honesty, that was the worst job I ever had. And it was her..everyone in the department hated her.

    Howard AHoward AVor 17 Tage
  • I had to watch this a couple of times to realize how smart this man is. You actually have to really reflect on what he is saying...spending some time unpacking it. It really hits at a different almost like unlocking an achievement. There is still time, we can fix this

    The Duke of WindsorThe Duke of WindsorVor 17 Tage
  • Qui bono? The Cancel Culture movement is an instrument of domination. In the entire western world (USA, Canada, Australia and Europe) values are devalued, families, communities, national sovereignties, legal systems, civil society and all other structures are dissolved. It is to isolate people .... In the end we fall silent because we no longer know what is still allowed to say. A massive dictatorship is being built behind it in a way, we can not imagine.... It is not stupidity, it is Propaganda. (Comm. Switzerland)

    Renate PistorioRenate PistorioVor 18 Tage
  • Thank you for know what your talking about

    Richard RittenhouseRichard RittenhouseVor 18 Tage
  • No time to talk about fakes move on

    Richard RittenhouseRichard RittenhouseVor 18 Tage
  • Life is completely so to talk in one lane only is so wrong

    Richard RittenhouseRichard RittenhouseVor 18 Tage
  • Seen so many Jordan Peterson interviews and this is without a doubt one of the best

    Sassy ShellySassy ShellyVor 18 Tage
  • wow such a whiney.... usually like his jibe but can't make it past 15 min.... he's more effective when he's being less '''empathic"... not trolling, just saying. I hope he's not 'loosing it'; so common for great minds to burn out.

    Merkava369Merkava369Vor 18 Tage